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Outriggers, Or any other ideas ?

Discussion in 'audio' started by Keith Smith, Mar 22, 2017.

  1. Keith Smith

    Keith Smith Getting older every day.

  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Widening the footprint will certanly make them far more stable and it will be far easier to get them nice and level and rigid (i.e. may improve the sound too).
  3. Keith Smith

    Keith Smith Getting older every day.

    Thanks Tony, that was my thoughts. Was really looking for a uk supplier

  4. busb

    busb Mine's a pint of beer please

    My Quadral CS8s are really designed for wooden floors rather than thick carpet on uneven floorboards. They currently sit on large 8mm thick so-called worktop savers that are half as wide again as the speakers & made from what looks like granite - they cost me around £12 - £18 each from Tesco's.
    There are some very nice platforms where the platform area drops below the outriggers so that the speakers aren't raised up but I can't remember who make them (saw some at the Bristol Show las month) but they were £800 each/a pair?! Didn't take too much notice due to the price! Looked at those SoundCity ones last year but they raise the speakers up too much with those sodding big cones.
    I've also seen reference to some that are pairs of adjustable bars that were still expensive but didn't appeal. I would have thought we'd be able to get something under £200 a pair here in Blighty but can't find anything suitable at a sensible price!
  5. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr pfm Member

    I think you're talking about the Townsend ones. They are pricey, but they do amazing things for the focus of the sound, and in my opinion are well worth considering.
  6. mattgbell

    mattgbell Help the elderly and unwell!

    They also have the virtue of reducing the transmission of LF sound from the speakers to the floor, which in turn reduces the amount of noise transmitted to your neighbours. This can be money very well spent.
  7. Keith Smith

    Keith Smith Getting older every day.

    Thanks for the advice, I had found the Townsend one on the web, but as said the price put me off.

    I had also considered using the bottom plates from set of speaker stands, but would prefer a purpose built solution ...
  8. jy3

    jy3 pfm Member

    They look good, easy to install, so why not go for them. Cheaper option would be to make something similar.
  9. daytona600

    daytona600 Registered User

  10. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr pfm Member

    They are expensive, yes, but if you have a half-decent pair of speakers they'll improve them. In my experience the improvements have been at least the equivalent of spending the same money on better speakers, and actually usually considerably more.
  11. Robby

    Robby pfm Member

    A few years ago I had a pair of Living Voice speakers and was concerned that one of the kids might knock them over (had a vey boisterous 2 year old at the time who would run into things).

    I did a similar thing to one of the other members and put them on cheap granite workshop savers but to aid their stability I fitted the speakers with some SoundCare Superspikes. These have a flat bottom to them so I glued them to the top of the granite once I had the speakers in an acceptable position. They never went anywhere and I think improved the sound.
  12. BlueYeti

    BlueYeti pfm Member

    Do you have the facilities / space to undertake a DIY project? It may be worth experimenting yourself with a few options?

    A couple of years ago I put together a simple cost effective solution to allay concerns of our toddler playing pinball with my Rega Kytes (which only have three spikes). It worked too, and they sill remain in place as not only do they add stability, but they are a perfect vacuum cleaner bumper!

    They may not have the isolation characteristics and sound improvements of something as sophisticated as the Townshend platforms, but sound quality is not worsened (bass actually tightened up a little) and cost only pennies to create with left over materials - the only sacrifice being time spent in the garage.

  13. sunbeamgls

    sunbeamgls pfm Member

    How about a nice inch thick piece of granite that has a wider and deeper footprint than the speakers - can be bolted on to the existing spike threads. A decent local stonemason should be able to make you a pair from off-cuts and drill them through for attaching the speakers and part way through for a set of threads for spikes.
    Wider footprint, lower centre of gravity.
  14. Keith Smith

    Keith Smith Getting older every day.

    Thank all, I'm going try the granite table mats on my existing granite slabs

    But I'm also going to try and fabricate something like this


    Would prefer to try and purchase a nice piece of stainless or steel with rounded ends but we will see what we can find ..

    If anybody has seen anything please feel free to throw ideas forward
  15. busb

    busb Mine's a pint of beer please

    Matt, Steve thanks. When I went to bed last night, I remembered so looked them up just now - £1400!!! I'm going to take some convincing that that amount on speakers costing £1900. They look like quality platforms & I suspect I do loose some bass but some would probably advise me to sell my inadequately provisioned speakers & buy something with bloody spikes. I'll mull them over but ouch!
  16. mattgbell

    mattgbell Help the elderly and unwell!

    Yeah, they are very pricey. OTOH the engineering is pukkah and the concept makes perfect sense (unlike many things in hi-fi).

    You might find that the Townshend Seismic Bars are rather cheaper than the platforms. They work just as well. I bought four for my speakers (I think the damage was about £600, but they seem to have gone up in price a lot since) and am very happy with them.
  17. Keith Smith

    Keith Smith Getting older every day.

  18. busb

    busb Mine's a pint of beer please

    A little less than £400 for a spiked custom-sized stand, including shipping. The expense with the Townsend products is more likely the 8 isolators. My Quadral's come with their own platforms. Again, thanks all.
    My thick granite worktop-savers not only gave a more security against wobble but did improve imaging noticeably.
  19. busb

    busb Mine's a pint of beer please

    The Townsend's are not £1400 but £1700 for size 2. Am going over to Wickes this afternoon - they do 600x600x32mm slabs for £6.65 each @ 32kg. Cheap enough to experiment with & to judge how naff they look. These will give me some idea if its worth spending out on granite but I don't want to raise my Quadrals up too far. 32mm is thinner than the usual slab (38mm).
  20. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    If you can DIY then £1400 or £1700 is a joke. Build something,either from stone or steel, Get a specialist to do the things that you can't do like cutting and polishing stone, or wleding and powdercoating steel, and you will still make them for a very modest sum.

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