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[Poll] Music: Rent or Buy? (2018)

Discussion in 'audio' started by Whaleblue, Jan 13, 2018.


As a basic approach - Rent or Buy your music?

Poll closed Jan 27, 2018.
  1. I primarily use subscription services - Rent

  2. I still mostly purchase CDs, LPs etc. - Buy

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  1. Julf

    Julf Facts are our friends

    Enjoy it while you can - they will eventually run out of superior source material.

    Sounds like there is something wrong with your streaming/network setup - or are you talking about the quality of the source material?
  2. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    Nothing wrong about my setup nor the quality of the source material.

    Even today I had the chance to compare Tidal Redbook Vs CD.

    We used a Bluesound node 2, an Esoteric K-07 X and a Cambridge CXC.

    Always using the Esoteric's DAC the best sound quality was clearly with the Esoteric also used as transport. The CXC into the Esoteric DAC was in the middle in terms of sound quality. The Bluesound into the Esoteric was clearly worse than the CXC.

    The rest of the setup was a Moon 250i integrated feeding a pair of Dynaudio special 40 helped by a REL S3.

    We listened to Sokolov live in Salzburg playing Chopin's prelude no 15 (opus 28) and Gershwin's Rapsody in Blue played and directed by Bernstein.

    Before you ask this was not a blind test. :)
  3. Julf

    Julf Facts are our friends

    Wasn't even going to ask... :)
  4. sq225917

    sq225917 situation engineer

    I mostly buy vinyl, I like my musicians to get paid
    ian r and Still like this.
  5. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    I was away from the Forum for a while. I'm positively impressed by your new stance. ;)
  6. manicatel

    manicatel pfm Member

    Streaming for me, along with buying vinyl for particular titles.
    The money I used to spend on cd’s now pays for my Tidal.
  7. Julf

    Julf Facts are our friends

    The record company gets paid. The musicians might, if enough other people buy the CDs and the downloads.
  8. Strictly Stereo

    Strictly Stereo Trade: Strictly Stereo

    Do you have the means to create a bit-perfect rip of the CD? I would be interested to hear whether the CD rip with the TIDAL stream both sound the same when they are played back on the Node 2.
  9. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    Sorry, I don't own the Bluesound and I seldom have the chance to listen to it.

    But I have several bit perfect CD rips and in my setup they sound clearly better with an SSD NetBook via USB Asynchronous into a Mytek Brooklyn DAC than with Tidal with a Chromecast Audio + iFi SPDIF purifier via Spdif into the same DAC.
  10. Julf

    Julf Facts are our friends

    So maybe they are from a different master? Or maybe your setup does resampling?
  11. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    No resampling.
    AFAIK there is only a single master of the Salzburg Concert... Do you think there is more than one?
  12. Julf

    Julf Facts are our friends

    There seems to be at least a Japanese and a German release.
  13. Strictly Stereo

    Strictly Stereo Trade: Strictly Stereo

    Any chance you could install the TIDAL app or better yet a third party app that supports both TIDAL streaming and local playback on your NetBook and compare that way, just to eliminate any other differences? Alternatively, is there a way to play the ripped CDs through the Chromecast Audio as well as the TIDAL streams?
  14. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    The Netbook I use to play local files has no access to the internet. It has just the Windows 7 services needed to run Foobar.

    But I can try with another netbook that I use to play Tidal Masters and compare how it plays local files vs Tidal redbook.
    I'd use Tidal for Windows and Foobar for local files. This one isn't fanless, has no SSD and it isn't tuned for audio but does a pretty good job playing Tidal Masters.
  15. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    But are these different Masters?
  16. MichaelC

    MichaelC pfm Member

    I am a (dinosaur) and a firm buyer of physical media. I cant imagine a) the tactile feel of a record or, even, a compact disc b) the album cover, notes, pictures, inners c) when buying new the % which goes to the musicians and d) technology, just haven't got the will power to get to grips with it and finally e) I heard, albeit only briefly, a Naim NDX (?) fronted system and it did leave me a little bit cold.
  17. spengenuk

    spengenuk pfm Member

    I stream (free) mostly due to very little of interest to me. I think I have got most of the music I want
  18. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    I certainly care about a), b) and c) too.
  19. Rodney gold

    Rodney gold Im just me...

    I have done an ABC comparison of Tidal vs local rip vs digital output of a cdp and they all sound the same
    I used to buy shedloads .. to wit I have almost 5000 cds (all ripped these days) I now "rent" exclusively
    Price for Tidal full monty here in south africa is real cheap , $9 a month .. less than a cheap bottle of wine
  20. firedog

    firedog pfm Member

    For music I really like and want to listen to repeatedly, I buy a download (Redbook or hi-res)
    For music that is less important to me, or just to explore - streaming.
    Streaming pays for itself, as I use it to decide that some albums aren't worth buying, when before streaming I might have taken a chance on them unheard.
    Julf likes this.
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