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Power Cables. Are they overhyped? Part II: Electric Boogaloo

Discussion in 'audio' started by BE718, Mar 31, 2017.

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  1. Ragaman

    Ragaman pfm Member

    Care to share.
     
  2. Ragaman

    Ragaman pfm Member

    In your opinion of course.

    The penny may drop at some point, I won't hold my breath in the meantime.

    I would imagine, if you tested the Rega amp I use, amongst others, you would hear no such improvement
    Are we there yet?

    PS/ did the cable arrive :D
     
  3. misterdog

    misterdog Not the canine kind

    How many have you dropped ?

    Rhodium plated IEC plug £ 1.86 you would be a phool not to market these,
    foil and braid 2.5mm 3 core mains cable £ 1.20 /Metre.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Pcs-B...699603?hash=item3f75a52fd3:g:6GMAAOSwr~lYotON

    £ 40/500 per Metre cable to you sir.

    Oops forgot the snakeskin effect outer braid £ 0.60/M

    Make a difference ?

    Of couse it does with that kind of mark up.
     
  4. sq225917

    sq225917 situation engineer

    I wasn't saying that the Muse model 200 sounded better with certain mains cables, it sounded better with a big ass dc filter or mains regeneration. No amount of passive cable swapping made on iota of difference.

    I realise others may have made claims to the contrary. I was just highlighting that a shit amp cannot, ime, be fixed with fancy cables with no sound engineering basis.
     
  5. venton

    venton pfm Member

    Rhodium plating from Hong Kong, sounds legit.
     
  6. misterdog

    misterdog Not the canine kind

    Your right they sound much better with a £ 30 price tag.

    I wonder where the majority of 'bog standard' kettle leads supplied with audio kit come from ?
     
  7. rn82497

    rn82497 pfm Member

    I agree with you - and I don't think anyone has ever claimed this?
     
  8. sq225917

    sq225917 situation engineer

    Why would a loose pin alloy a better connection in a plug, surely all slightly misaligned would give greater contact pressure?

    If manufactures have a shit they'd hard wire for fewer connections...
     
  9. venton

    venton pfm Member

    More contact area = greater pleasure
     
  10. mattgbell

    mattgbell Weird owl

    Size doesn't matter
     
  11. Suffolk Tony

    Suffolk Tony pfm Member

    Now come on! You should know by now they HATE success on here!
     
  12. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    More than happy to - but can you first give your definition of "design"?

    A lot of audiophile "designers" simply take a circuit from a manufacturers application note, or use ready-made modules, and the actual "design" part is coming up with an interesting-looking enclosure and some exotic but irrelevant auxiliary components for proper cred. Does that qualify too?
     
  13. Ragaman

    Ragaman pfm Member

    Foruma nervosa in all it's glory
     
  14. Ragaman

    Ragaman pfm Member

    It's a Eureka moment
    Your spot on.
     
  15. Ragaman

    Ragaman pfm Member

    Ok, so same cable can be made for a tenner right, the seller sells it for £500, which cable is a rip off

    Penny almost there?
     
  16. Ragaman

    Ragaman pfm Member

    Ok, so same cable can be made for a tenner, right, the seller sells it for £500, which cable is the rip off?

    You have it all upside down & back to front as many others do here.

    A Naim Nait 5si sells for £500 then buyer sells to someone else for £3,000, which is the shit amp.
     
  17. misterdog

    misterdog Not the canine kind

    Whichever amp needs an expensive mains cable upgrade :p
     
  18. sq225917

    sq225917 situation engineer

    Bum tschh
     
  19. misterdog

    misterdog Not the canine kind

    So if you remove the lid from an amp which is transformed by said cable, what cable do you find from the IEC inlet to the transformer ? shielded ? mono crystal copper ? - no.

    So the cable on the pylon to your house is bog standard ( not even copper), the cable in your wall is bog standard, the cable inside your amp is bog standard.

    But you are convinced that some magic cable between your wall socket and your amp is making a difference ?

    The only possible difference it could make is by causing interference into your signal cables, assuming you use non shielded phono leads.

    As many experts also say you only need balanced shielded signal cables in a studio or if you have long cable runs..
     
  20. BE718

    BE718 pfm Member

    There are situations where the mains is so erratic and noisy they can be of use. Where I have lived it has never been necessary and I think it is uncommon for it to be necessary.

    I dont know the quality of whatnexts main supply, but a well designed regen will eliminate problems that 1m of funky mains cable wont.
     
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