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Discussion in 'off topic' started by Seanm, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    if you were a newbie, this nonsense could be overlooked. if i had to pick the last person in the world to ever do what you're suggesting, it would probably be sean.

    fwiw: my sophisticated psychoanalytic interpretation of your reaction and words is that the strength of his arguments on labour (and brexit) make you feel unconsciously/symbolically/intellectually like his little bitch.
     
  2. maxflinn

    maxflinn pfm Member

    Indeed..
     
  3. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Good luck to Lucas, at least she is trying to deliver a fresh referendum. All Labour can do is say they won't back a replacement government not led by Corbyn.

    "Lucas, who is understood to have begun talks with the women she has addressed in her open letter, sent the offer to Thornberry, Swinson, Greening and Sturgeon, as well as the Change UK MP Anna Soubry, the independent MP Heidi Allen, the SNP’s Kirsty Blackman, the independent Northern Irish MP Sylvia Hermon and Plaid Cymru’s Liz Saville Roberts.

    "The final MP who has been approached is Yvette Cooper, one of the leading Labour figures coordinating efforts to stop no deal, but the only one of the addressees who has not explicitly endorsed a second referendum herself."

    Diane Abbott hasn't been overlooked because she is black. It has no doubt got something to do with her refusing to take part in a provisional government not led by fence splitter Corbyn.

    Jack
     
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  4. SteveG

    SteveG pfm Member

    On a quick skim of the article it does appear radically stupid as well as very sexist. No idea how that article actually relates to what she said of course, as I'd trust the Guardian about as much as I'd trust the Sun or the Mirror these days.
     
  5. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Did you get it ks.234?

    What usually happens when you ask ignorant questions?

    Indicative of more intellectual malaise. hth:

    Marx and Feminism: https://www.triple-c.at/index.php/tripleC/article/view/1004
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
  6. Romulus

    Romulus pfm Member

    She was not everybody's cup of tea, but defnitely one of the best effective politicians on foreign policy matters.
     
  7. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    For some unconscious misogynists she was the wrong sort of woman to be 1st UK PM.
    Presumably LP will have a women leading at some point in the future.
     
  8. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    1) There are far too many statues already.

    2) The statue as depicted in the newspaper is absolutely hideous. It looks like the fire alarm went off in the middle of the night and Maggie T came downstairs in her nightie.

    3) If erected, the statue would be the subject of vandalism/destruction from day one.

    4) There are plenty of other female role models to choose from, but see 1).
     
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  9. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Not of women parliamentarians.

    Only one other woman ex PM. Anyone for a Theresa May statue?
     
  10. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

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  11. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

  12. Brian

    Brian Eating fat, staying slim

    And so they should. Lucas is talking tripe if the report is true.

    I wouldn’t care to see any of that bunch in a ‘provisional govt’.

    What we need is a GE.
     
  13. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    “My feminist heart sings” – Scottish Jo Swinson Wins the Race for LibDem Party Leadership



    https://fnf-europe.org/2019/07/25/m...on-wins-the-race-for-libdem-party-presidency/
     
  14. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    This seems like a cunning plan, and d'ya know, it might just work. I like it.
     
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  15. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    I’ve found that this kind of thing makes a lot more sense if understood not as a serious proposal but as a way for small parties to generate media attention. All the government of national unity stuff belongs in this category, as does the Lib Dems’ “We’ll stop Brexit” schtick. On this level it’s all been pretty successful and you can hardly blame these parties for making the most of the few opportunities the system makes available to them. It’s just not really any help if your priority is preventing no deal Brexit.
     
  16. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

  17. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Possibly you've not done the necessary research.
    J.S. is definitely planning to change inequality of the sexes for a start.
     
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  18. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    A good point well made by Simon Wren-Lewis. However not at all clearly made by Labour themselves (or their more vocal supporters_, hence the collapse in Labour's polling.
    While I agree tactical voting is a must to defend against the Tories and Farage there will be many constituencies where it's not clear whether Labour or Lib Dem are the better bet to defeat the the far right, especially given Labour's falling polling numbers. Would be ideal if Labour and Lib Dem worked together in the face of the Tories and Brexit Party coordinating.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
  19. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    So, to recap: archaic party with a 100 year succession of male, pale and stale leaders accuses party with female leader of “not being feminist enough”...
     
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  20. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    So how would you suggest parliament prevents a no deal Brexit?
     

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