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Discussion in 'off topic' started by BJP, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Just to be clear, I was joking.
  2. Bjork67

    Bjork67 pfm Member

    I like spaghetti just with butter on and a sprinkling of Parmesan, food of the gods whichever way you choose to eat it.
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  3. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Also olive oil and Parmesan is great. I remember talking to a chef about this and he told me his favourite was pasta with only olive oil, but that the quality of both, and of the water used for cooking, had to be perfect.
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  4. Cav

    Cav pfm Member

    This is a joke. The water? from the tap? was crucial? Oh! my ribs have burst asunder...

    Did he charge 50 quid in his restaurant for this gourmet delight?
  5. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy


    olive oil!
    next thing you'll be introducing garlic into the equation and offending the english even more with all these swarthy culinary practices.
  6. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Vuk, here's your straw man.

    That's not what he said. That may be what you chose to hear, but it's not what he said.

    Here it is, and I have a perfect level of comprehensi on of what each of you has said.
  7. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    if you look at the semantics, it's exactly what he said. are you to explain the difference between what you think the two claims are? you really haven't done that and neither has cav. the 2 of you keep repeating "no" without any sort of explanation.

    where is it? in invisible font?
  8. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    The difference between the two claims is blindingly apparent. The fact that you refer to them as 2 claims is illustrative. Read them again.
  9. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Yes, believe it or not, the taste of the water used for cooking pasta has an influence on the taste of the pasta. This should be obvious, since once cooked about 50% of its weight is water. Or ask anyone who drinks whisky with water, they will unfailingly tell you what kind of water they prefer.

    No, he did not offer this in his restaurant, it was for his own pleasure.
  10. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    P.S. I've been faithfully trying to follow The Great Vuk/Cav Spaghetti Battle but must confess I'm completely lost. It is like those diagrams of naval battles with dotted lines that curl and cross and re-cross each other all around the page with microscopic notes at certain points.
  11. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Pasta based altercations can be among the most serious. Minor disagreement about boiling time and water quality will turn into a Palermo knife fight.
  12. MikeMA

    MikeMA pfm Member

    Let them eat gnocchi!
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  13. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Some years ago a Neapolitan shot his wife dead with his shotgun. At his trial he explained that he had acted in a state of temporary insanity, because his wife had given him overcooked, i.e. soggy, pasta three days running. He got attenuating circumstances.
  14. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    The pastacidal maniac! I blame that Marco Polo.
  15. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Not extenuating?
  16. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    OK, now that it's not midnight and I'm not half asleep, here goes:
    Cav said:
    This statement can be interpreted in 2 ways that I can think of. One is the way that you saw and paraphrased as
    Cav says that he didn't mean this, and I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. The alternative meaning of what he said, and what I first read it as, can be paraphrased as "Poor people may have to live on a flour and water based product such as pasta. I can't understand why you would do so if you can afford something better and tastier".

    This is why I'm saying that the 2 sentences are different, and this is why I have accused you of raising a straw man, because in your paraphrased statement you remove the ambiguity in Cav's original sentence. My paraphrased sentence also removes any ambiguity but is an alternative interpretation.

    Cav didn't *necessarily* say what you think. If you want to think that he did, that's up to you. I don't think so.
  17. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    I don't care who said what.. but referring to spaghetti in the singular is, I believe, incorrect. There's a clue in the 'i'. An Italian work colleague always referred to spaghetti as 'them'. I presume a single 'stick' is strictly a 'Spaghetto' ?
    I would value informed input on this most pressing issue.

    I suppose there's always a subtle distinction between the uncooked item(s) .. and the prepared dish.. in much the same way that we would refer to a single potato as a 'potato', but a number of potatoes cooked and mashed becomes 'mashed potato'.. not usually 'mashed potatoes'

    It's a conundrum of a mystery of a puzzle shrouded in an enigma.
  18. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Derived from the Latin spaghettum.
  19. Konteebos

    Konteebos Traitor Re-joiner

  20. Cav

    Cav pfm Member


    Vuk thinks he is kind of a Wittgenstein, whereas he is more of a Kant....
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