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Supernait 3 on way?

Discussion in 'audio' started by JoeJoe, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. manicatel

    manicatel pfm Member

    With clearance SNait2’s going for £2200 now & the new XS3’s at a very similar price, I wonder what the two sound like compared to each other?
     
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  2. JoeJoe

    JoeJoe Active Member

    Could you please elaborate what this means re gains/changes or drops in performance please? Genuinely interested.
     
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  3. thebiglebowski

    thebiglebowski pfm Member

    Why does the SN3 have a stream input button on the front but no NIC in the back?
     
  4. cubeasic

    cubeasic pfm Member

    In the picture from the Naim Site, you see the transistor names on the PCB, 2SC3519 and 2SA1386, both types from Sanken. Those are NPN and PNP devices, giving a complementary output stage, unlike with all other naim amps, that use NPN devices only, in quasi-complementary fashion. Apparently they also made some other changes to the amp stage, to double the slew rate.

    The first one to introduce a real complementary amp based on the classic RCA-(or Naim-) circuit was Les from Avondale Audio. His qudos NCC220 board have that too, and they outshine the predecessors NCC200 by far in direct comparison. It is actually much more modern, quasi complementary circuits have only been used decades ago, because PNP transistors were more difficult to make back then.

    In general, this would mean increased performance, less distortion, etc. but it does not have to.
    In case of the Avondale boards that introduced a complementary circuit, the feedback was overwhelmingly positive.

    Eventually, the Nait is only a test-balloon, and the other amps will see this change as well, years from now...
     
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  5. Musicraft

    Musicraft Trade: Musicraft

    Our SN2 is less than £2000 :)
     
  6. Craig B

    Craig B Re:trophile

    I was going to suggest that it reads better than AUX, but there is an AUX button on the right there.

    Covering all bases?
     
  7. Ptah

    Ptah pfm Member

    I think you know the answer to that one.
    If you don't - Naim want to sell you one of their streamers, and aren't interested in computer inputs.
     
  8. simon g

    simon g Grumpy Old Man

    Because many people will connect a streamer to it? ND5XS2, or whatever. The SN3 is not an integrated streaming amplifier so doesn't have a network interface; those who want that would presumably buy a model from their Uniti range. Amps for decades past have inputs labelled with their potential use (eg DVD, CD, Tape, etc); they're merely labels of convenience, not indicators of functionality.
     
  9. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    For the same reason it has cd, tuner, av, aux on it..... :rolleyes:
     
  10. Old Shatterhand

    Old Shatterhand Odeon Audio user

    As far as I know all Naim black integrated amps (SN1, SN2, XS, XS2, and so on)use NPN and PNP devices, the power amplifiers are using NPN devices only.:)
     
  11. pit

    pit pfm Member

    For sure supernait 2 and 3 share the same non pnp transistors
     
  12. Old Shatterhand

    Old Shatterhand Odeon Audio user

    You mean the same NPN and PNP transistors right?
     
  13. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    Isn’t that where Santa comes from?
     
  14. PerF

    PerF Member

    I think thats Greenland actually, maybe why Trump was interested:D
     
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  15. pit

    pit pfm Member

    Yes if you take a look to sn2 and 3 pictures you could see the same out trans
     
  16. cubeasic

    cubeasic pfm Member

    Ah I did not know that. Thanks.
     
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