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Support the petition for a universal basic income tria

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Mr Ian, Mar 19, 2020.

  1. Mr Ian

    Mr Ian pfm Member

    Support the petition for a universal basic income trial
    Petition Implement Universal Basic Income to give home & food security through Covid-19

    The government should implement an immediate Universal Basic Income trial for all UK residents to ensure home and food security through the coronavirus Covid-19 crisis, to support the needs of those that need to self-isolate as well as the public health at large, and the wider economy.

    The Covid-19 crisis means there will be an impact on society. The scientific & medical measures needed are paramount. The economy is pivotal to the UK, but relief is needed for people as well as businesses.

    Trialling a Universal Basic Income for all residents would give home and food security, allowing people to make the right decisions for their families and wider society, whilst also keeping money flowing through the economy.

    Doing this will reduce pressures caused by acts of desperation

    Sign the petition at

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  2. Bananahead

    Bananahead pfm Member

    I wonder who the money will be borrowed from
  3. Roger Adams

    Roger Adams pfm Member

    Duncan Smith.

    He is on another planet and completely lacks compassion.

    They will give the funds to businesses and we all know where it will end up.

    Boris says he will be "disappointed" if that happens. 12 months? This is what people were saying. How do you close the economy down for 12 months? Most people cannot last 5 weeks. Talk of this was inconceivable and considered ridiculous only weeks ago. Very very worrying if a change in plan is not made
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  4. George J

    George J Herefordshire member

    The mythical magical money tree ... NOT.

    It will be a mortgage for all of us and future generations to pay for. That is not to say that it should not happen. After all this is how WW 2 was financed, and it is conceivable that expert economists may consider that oiling the economy financially while it grinds to a slow tick-over, is better than letting it stall and seize up.

    It would seem that intuition is unlikely to help in such a decision to make this step. Real economic expertise should form the basis for such a decision.

    Best wishes from George
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  5. Mr Ian

    Mr Ian pfm Member

    Its not a new Idea john Luther king suggested it in 1967 and finland has had it in place for some time now.
  6. Bananahead

    Bananahead pfm Member

  7. Mr Ian

    Mr Ian pfm Member

    Didnt know finland had stopped but yes but current situation somewhat different, my gut reaction is that it msy be cheaper and more effective than recruiting loads more people into job seekers allowance teamd
  8. jtrade

    jtrade pfm Member

  9. pete the bus

    pete the bus pfm Member

    The company I work for has gone 'into dormancy' until it's all over. They specialise in transporting equipment for conferences, exhibitions and other such events around Europe.
    I am now on Universal Credit, and being classed as a 'casual' will not get anything from the forthcoming monetary help package being discussed at the moment.
    The idea of a universal basic income sounds good to me!
    Petition signed and shared.
  10. irons1965

    irons1965 pfm Member

  11. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.


    Where it should come from? Tax the rich of course! It's that simple and applies to most of the countries problems.... Take from the rich to give to the poor!
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  12. dweezil

    dweezil pfm Member

    An appealing slogan but many of the rich will be joining us poor over the next year. My pension fund is down 21% on the year and annuities are dropping fast.

    The rich will end up being anyone on a watertight public sector final salary pension at this rate.
  13. pete the bus

    pete the bus pfm Member

    87,939 signatures as at 2315 on 20/3.
    Needs to reach 100,000 for parliament to debate it.
  14. Gingerbeard

    Gingerbeard pfm Member

    I work in the industry that the company you work for supports :) I was told yesterday that one haulage company (may have been KB Events) was losing as much as £500k a week, there are many others Fly By Night, Stagetruck, Conference Haul to name a few, that are all going to be in the same situation

    I was thinking about all of the laid up vehicles in our industry and how these might be utilised over the coming months - Perhaps assisting the supermarkets with getting supplies to the shelves or the NHS getting medical supplies such as PPE delivered etc. How practical and feasible this is I wouldn’t know

    We are not expecting, realistically, to be working at any kind of normal level until September and even that may be an early estimate. That is the most worrying aspect for me (us)
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