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The end of the IC engine

Discussion in 'off topic' started by tones, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. steveledzep

    steveledzep pfm Member

    I have a dashcam because I've seen too many d!ckhead drivers. If I'm involved in an incident caused by one of those drivers I want some evidence.
  2. MikeMA

    MikeMA pfm Member

    I'd like to think at the very least we could go back to wearing clothes made of natural materials, like cotton, linen, wool and leather instead of artificial stuff. Most low rent clothes shops are full of cheap smelly petrochemical apparel.
  3. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    About 300,000 commute daily to Singapore. They have to clear immigration nand customs. Imagine having passport control at the M25
  4. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    That's what many people start with, but then a few start posting mind numbing videos on YouTube of them being cut up on Tonbridge high street. Funny thing is, they just show the world how poor their own driving is.

    Living and working somewhere that isn't congested is the best solution.
  5. maxflinn

    maxflinn pfm Member

  6. steveledzep

    steveledzep pfm Member

    Agreed :)

    Carmarthenshire is beautifully uncongested.
  7. mpj88

    mpj88 Well-Known Member

    Agreed,i try and get on the road at 9am and get home before 4pm to avoid traffic and bonkers commuters!
  8. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    Memories of driving home to Pembrokeshire, stuck behind caravans and agricultural show lorries at St Clears
  9. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    I bet Tigerjones read the thread title as 'The end of the Interest Check engine'.
  10. MVV

    MVV pfm Member

    I appreciate the air quality angle and general direction of travel. However I still find it difficult to believe that a battery powered car uses fewer natural resources and pollutes less overall (manufacturing, electricity generation etc) than a small efficient petrol one.
  11. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    It's because it's (currently) cheaper. We have no replacement materials for phones, computers, cars ...

    Without petrochemical plastics, our way of life is basically over.

    This is fascinating. We basically know how much plastic we've made. The estimates for how much we've dumped are sobering.

  12. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Have you heard of renewables and power storage?
  13. Rug Doc

    Rug Doc pfm Member

    Holy crap thats just horrible. How goddam awful of us :(
  14. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Waiting for the streetcar..

    The environmental impact of extraction of rare earth metals to make batteries and the controlling electronics is massive. We seem to be very happy to let it happen though because the impact is not against schools within 150 yards of a main road.

    Even if you ignore everything but CO2 creation, you have to drive 160000 miles before a hybrid becomes more environmentally friendly.

  15. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    But that's looking backwards, not forwards. Battery production will improve in every way.
  16. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Waiting for the streetcar..

    I hope so.
  17. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    The pace of development has been staggering even in only 10 years, certainly 15. Back then an electric car was a milk float. LED lights were useless, apart from red ones that were OK on bikes. Now they are replacing halogen. The electric car will happen, and classic cars will be like steam engines.
  18. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    We are currently having a low oil price because none of the oil producers are at war. By 2040 many of those wells will be like the North Sea examples, empty.
  19. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

  20. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    Now there is a world shortage of cobalt, which ideally would be 20% of the battery. This has been cut to 10%, but this may have reliability consequences

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