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The Great Obesity Epidemic

Discussion in 'off topic' started by gassor, Nov 27, 2014.

  1. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    What the hell is going on? When I was at primary school (late 50s) there was one lad in the class overweight. At secondary there was another, maybe borderline obese, in my class. Today I read this

    Given the way being overweight creeps up on people during there lifetimes, will we soon reach the stage where obese people make up the majority of the population?

    Additionally,

    The cost of this treatment, would it appears, bankrupt the NHS. It is hard to believe that we can do this to ourselves.
     
  2. merlin

    merlin Avatar changed - Town names deemed offensive.

    Many expensive health problems these days seem to be self inflicted, whether it's obesity or any number of newly found psychiatric conditions like depression.

    The sugar industry is behind one. The Pharmaceutical industry behind the other. Profit is everything in the 21st century.

    Facebook has no obligation whatsoever to report threats of violence to interested parties. It does however feel compelled to report visits to the Waitrose On Line site to anyone who's prepared to pay them for the information.

    A perfect illustration of the power of commerce over morality. Wonderful new world we live in.
     
  3. MikeMA

    MikeMA pfm Member

    .......another thread about people eating too much. Just how many different ways can you cut the cake?
     
  4. auric

    auric pfm Member

    Evidence of having one's cake and eating it?
     
  5. Daniel Quinn

    Daniel Quinn Banned

    Once again I am struggling to envisage what it is this stats are telling us , they give the impression that wales is full of porkies waddling around eating cakes .

    And once again I consider this to be a disingenuous use of statistics .

    the average weight for an 11 year old boy is 5 stone 7 pounds and he will be 55 inches . If you take your son to the doctor with these stats he will be fine .

    If he goes to 5 stone 12 pounds he wil be considered overweight , according to the nhs bmi calculator he will be in the 92 percentile .

    if he puts on a stone a weight 6 stone 7 pounds this will make him very overweight and put in the 98th per centile .

    however , to be classified as obese ie 30% bmi he would have to weigh 9 stone .

    I will eat my PT at scalfold hall for charity if 25% of 11 year olds in wales weigh 9 stone or over .

    As always i remain confused by what i am told .
     
  6. lrt1367

    lrt1367 pfm Member

    To suggest depression is self inflicted is disgraceful, this is a horrible disease that is not bought on by the sufferer, it is a chemical imbalance & nothing to do with feeling a little low or fed up, what a sweeping statement & typical of the ignorance shown towards this disease.
     
  7. Daniel Quinn

    Daniel Quinn Banned

    Whilst you may not agree with Merlin , indeed I never do , the chemical imbalance theory of depression is not an accepted orthodoxy and if it plays a part , then that part must necessarily be influenced by a persons socio-economic and cultural circumstances and who they are as a human being .

    mental illness is not a disease like cancer or flu , it as cognitive aspect to it .
     
  8. lrt1367

    lrt1367 pfm Member

    This thread is in very poor taste, I have suffered with this illness for most of my adult life so I think I know a thing or 2 regarding the causes of depression, the thread has been reported to the administrator.
     
  9. Daniel Quinn

    Daniel Quinn Banned

    The thread is about obesity not depression ? :confused:
     
  10. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    +1.

    And it is not 'recently discovered'. It has existed forever under various descriptions.

    Mull
     
  11. lrt1367

    lrt1367 pfm Member

    Then why make such a sweeping comment on this illness in the first post
     
  12. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    It does indeed, as does the totally irrational anxiety which has plagued me on and off for years. Doesn't make it any less debilitating or unpleasant though.
     
  13. lrt1367

    lrt1367 pfm Member

    Thank you
     
  14. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...


    Agreed, but Merlin's seemingly throwaway and highly ignorant comment was bound to induce a backlash.

    Maybe he'd like to withdraw it?

    Mull
     
  15. lrt1367

    lrt1367 pfm Member

    This would be best as I am very angry about such a statement about an illness that has prevented me living a normal life for 30 years, it should be withdrawn if there is any morality left on this site.
     
  16. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Depression is not a newly found psychiatric condition. Your statement about it is complete nonsense and an insult to people with mental health problems.

    Jack
     
  17. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

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    May I request folk show a little empathy and basic politeness when discussing this topic - it must be possible to navigate the subject without causing offence to anyone.
     
  18. auric

    auric pfm Member

    Quite right.
    Not newly discovered but perhaps newly discovered, talked about and examined by and in the popular media.
    Radio 4 "All in the mind" lead by Claudia Hammond has been IMHO doing a first rate job of dispelling myths and replacing fiction with fact for quite sometime http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qxx9
     
  19. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr pfm Member

    Medical definition of obesity: anybody with a BMI over 30 (around 15 stone for a 5'9" adult)

    Media definition of obesity: huge great whale-like obscenities who haven't seen their tackle since childhood and have to be forklifted into ambulances through a hole in the front wall of the house.

    Alternative media definition of obesity (if it suits the story): anybody technically 'overweight' ie with a BMI over 25.
     
  20. SteveG

    SteveG pfm Member

    Going by my BMI then technically I'm obese, although I'm don't think many would think that I was as I don't have a huge waistline (I'm a 36") and I run 5k or more at least 3 times a week.
     

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