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Time for a motorbike list

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Rasher, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. Pete MB&D

    Pete MB&D Pete Maddex, the one and only!

    They all look really pissed off in their piss-pot helmets to me, I haven't as yet seen one smiling.

  2. cjarchez

    cjarchez pfm Member

    In the UK we had, what I believe to be, the largest HD dealer in the land, Riders, very close by and a huge amount of Harleys owned locally.
    Then in Spain there was also a presence along with some dodgy Harley- wannabe bikes from the east.
    Here, again a following. Quite a cross section seem to ride them, from die hard hell's angels to very wealthy, bored slickers. They all seem quite a cheerful bunch though.
    Again, a local dealer and custom specialist present.
    I was planning on really embarrassing myself by turning up there on my scooter to buy a half decent helmet! (Rather than the very iffy plastic specials that pass as legal here).
  3. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    I've never done the BookFace thing, but here's a copy of the original message and links. The Chairman Steve is a Vrod owner, and was determined to raise the profile of the 'Rods.

    There's a new Club for HD Enthusiasts and most importantly V-Rod is spoken here.
    Find us on Facebook
    or on our website

    There will be Insurance Discounts , parts discounts and most importantly events and runs. See you around!

  4. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    Universal derision would perhaps be the best way to describe it :) When you see a posse of the white collar/weekend pirate types descend on a dealership, you can't help but think YMCA.

    I've had 3 at different times over the years, and will probably have another one in the future. The Vrod was a quantum leap forward in terms of engineering for them - a short-stroke oversquare liquid-cooled 60deg V engine that revs to 10000rpm and runs to 100k miles easily. The faithful alas hated it, and the MoCo dropped it and have stuck with the old faithful 45 deg air-cooled lumps which are at least half a century back engineering wise.

    If you get the appeal of steam engines, or those little stationary engines you see at country fairs, or just like riding around without feeling the need to hit Mach 2 or drag your elbow through the local roundabouts every outing, they are a bit of fun.
  5. awkwardbydesign

    awkwardbydesign Officially Awesome

    But for real agricultural appeal, get a Guzzi.
  6. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    So, the vrod will never be collectible or will because of the above?
  7. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    The 1340cc DynaGlide I had felt like a jackhammer in comparison to any Guzzi I ever rode. And probably more of a kindred spirit in engineering terms as well :)

    Hard to call. A lot of the chaps on the forums hope so, but it's not liked by most of the Harley types and isn't imo special enough, or rare enough to warrant collector status. They'll hold their value, and are easy to maintain and run, so not a bad proposition for a long term keeper, but I don't think they'll ever make it into XLCR territory.
  8. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    Is the clutch lever heavy / light on the hand for both Vrod and the others to you?
  9. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    I never noticed it to any huge degree Rich, so probably 'average' - which aint much help. That could be though because in general every damn thing about the big HD Heavyweight bikes seems to require extra effort, from trying to paddle them around the garage, to trying to do U turns in anything less than dual-carriageway sized roads. Come to think of it, the clutch pull was definitely heavier than on one of the demo Indian models I took a run on when I had the VRod.
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  10. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Distributor and Manufacturer

    Nothing bike wise is as agricultural as a Harley, especially an old one... :)
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  11. herb

    herb music live

    Nah my vote would be for a Panther 600, always wanted to ride one:)
  12. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    That was a 1930s design that was out of date by the 50s. My Dad remembers them, usually pulling a huge sidecar and offering no perceptible performance. They sound great on idle but that video shows their true nature, after idling for a minute or two the guy opened the throttle to raise the revs and the bloody thing stalled. I suspect that like a lot of relics they are best observed through rose tinted glasses and offer more fun when being admired at shows than when actually used.
  13. Joe

    Joe pfm Member

    Friend of mine had a Panther sloper about 30 years ago ( mid 80's ) ( btw...he was in his 20's ) and he toured Europe on it a bit. He recounted tales of having to stop every 300 miles or so to dismantle the clutch and set fire to the plain clutch plate to deglaze it to get it to work at all.
  14. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    That's grim. I thought they just leaked, offered no performance and just plodded on for years, the nice noise and minimal miles being enough to make up for them being rather poor at doing the job in hand.
  15. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    As mentioned before I had my grandfathers 1932 600 Sunbeam for a while after he died. It was horrible in every way other than looks, Hard to kick off, conked out regularly, slow, heavy, did not corner, vibrated, uncomfy, stupid gear change on right of tank, horrible steering damper that was basically a massive chrome wheel on the top of the fork, locking the steering nuts down so it wouldn't turn at all on really slow corners.

    Not sure anything prior to the late 70s is worth riding any more.
  16. Snufkin

    Snufkin pfm Member

    Some of those old bikes were dire by the standards of the 1970's let alone today but don't dismiss all bikes born before the late 70's as there were some rather wonderful ones. For example a nicely sorted out Norton Commando is a lovely and very rideable bike. Some of the better engineered two-strokes of the late 60's/early 70's are also far more capable than they might seem and some were even very reliable. I am thinking of the Suzuki 500T which was an exceptionally well thought through bike although not that common in the UK.
  17. awkwardbydesign

    awkwardbydesign Officially Awesome

    You couldn't beat my old BSA Bantam 125. Except a Honda 50 did!
  18. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member


    Three months on into the Summer and no bike tales yet ??

    Flipped the bars on mine yesterday. Just couldn't get on with the head down/ass in the air/ can't look over your shoulder because your helmet digs into your collar bone thing any more. Took about 2 hours to strip the bars and then swap and invert the left and right clip-ons. Felt more like a streetfightery thing at first - but a quick check confirms its still less sensible than my brother's VFR.


    Excuse the muck, but it was a choice between washing the thing or going out for a good scoot on it..


    Riding position's not too bad at all on it now. Not much difference at speed, but I can actually tackle U-turns without resorting to 27 point manoeuvres, and can finally look around at junctions without having to almost get off the bike to see up and down the road :)

  19. RustyB

    RustyB Registered Ginga

    Nothing is as sensible as a VFR (that you'd want to ride anyway). That flat bar angle looks a little odd, but I guess it works.
  20. deebster

    deebster Half Man Half Biscuit

    At 13 I had a Honda 50 3-speed that I bought from a friend for 50p (the cost of its half tank of petrol). Lots of fun over the local fields on that one

    Then had a Yamaha Serow 225 in the early 2000s while living in Thailand. The import papers from Japan recorded it as farmyard equipment. No tax, insurance or anything. Got stopped by the cops once or twice at roadblocks, but all they wanted was a go on it :D

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