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Trump Part 14

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Yank, Jun 4, 2018.

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  1. notaclue

    notaclue pfm Member

    The Democrats made up the Russian hacking... so they could lose the election.

    Cohen made up the pornstar payments... so he could go to jail.

    While Trump needs to do an awful lot better than that, it's probably enough to keep his base happy. They'll buy anything.
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  2. Hook

    Hook Blackbeard's former bo'sun.

    The message I receive today is quite the opposite. Despite the best efforts of a corrupt President to distract and obfuscate, the judicial system continues to function as intended.
  3. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    Ahh right. That will be lot more difficult for 'yer typical redneck to think through...
  4. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    That's as maybe.. and it is a little encouraging. But I still recall the notorious 'Enemies of the People' headline here when our trusty DM wanted to undermine the rule of Law.
  5. chainrule

    chainrule gordon

    pardons may not be all trump hopes them to be. there is speculation that mueller has "prosecutorial backdoors" for the major players in this drama, i.e. he's building cases on the state level against them.
  6. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    well, not quite "just in". he said that on rachel maddow's show last night (i heard it with my own ears).

    what i don't understand is why trump is not being indicted right away. the evidence here is incontrovertible.
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  7. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Staying alert

    Big question might be, is this enough to take Pence down with him?
  8. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    i don't believe pence had anything to do with the pay-offs.
  9. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Staying alert

    That's my concern. If the Trump impeachment leads to President Pence, we're screwed.
  10. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    Th orange one is now Tweeting that the crimes Cohen pleaded guilty to weren't crimes. I see Rudy's hand in this.
  11. Ciunas Audio

    Ciunas Audio Trade: Ciunas Audio

    Wow, that's all he's got - self-pity - sad!
  12. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

  13. Ciunas Audio

    Ciunas Audio Trade: Ciunas Audio

    That first tweet above is direct from Dershowitz - I heard him say the exact same thing on CNN, pretty much
  14. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    You can see exactly what Trump is doing with those tweets: preaching to the converted. He knows that his supporters will swallow anything. But surely the evidence already out there is enough for him to swing?
  15. Ciunas Audio

    Ciunas Audio Trade: Ciunas Audio

    I was hoping he was swinging already & that's why there was twitter silence
  16. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    here is everyone's favourite zionist lawyer on everyone's favourite news station:

    granted, it is rather sobering (and annoying).
  17. Darmok

    Darmok "A Priori Teleology."

    "Directing Mind and Will" is the legal expression here...


    More in detail...


    The Don is toast, imv.

    Lets watch him wriggle, hehe.
  18. TPA

    TPA Trade: Tiger Paw

    Trouble is we've been here before and his detractors have been so alarmist that it's difficult to determine exactly what the realistic implications are for him. I have absolutely no idea how this will pan out and made the decision to follow the facts as they unfold rather than the conjecture a long time ago.
  19. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    If, as is being speculated, Trump's about to fire Mueller that could be the spark that brings him down. As things stand I think the Republicans are behaving like turkey's that would prefer it not to be so near Christmas.
  20. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    from CNN:

    Being indicted isn't Donald Trump's problem. Impeachment might be.

    That is a violation of campaign finance laws, one of the eight charges that Cohen pleaded guilty to on Tuesday. And so, if Cohen admitted he broke the law and testified that he did it at the direction of the President then, well, isn't Trump in deep trouble?

    Probably not. And the reason is that special counsel Robert Mueller's office has apparently signaled to the President's legal team that they will abide by longstanding Justice Department regulations that stipulate that a sitting President can't be indicted. "All they get to do is write a report," Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani told CNN's Dana Bash in May. "They can't indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us."



    so, i got tricked into getting the popcorn again last night.
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