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Trump Part 16

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Yank, Jan 5, 2019.

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  1. maxflinn

    maxflinn Tulsi Gabbard 2020.

  2. Ciunas Audio

    Ciunas Audio Trade: Ciunas Audio

    Just started to listen to it & early on the first inaccuracy is what Michael Tracey says is in the Barr summary - he quotes as if it's accurate the same inaccuracy as you Max - he states that this was lifted directly from Mueller's report "They did not establish any conspiracy or coordination between Trump, Trump associates & Russia" - this is what he said was in Mueller's report & you Max also stated this before which I corrected -

    The correct quote is "[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
    This is very different to what you, Tracey & many others try to claim - this is a very specific statement which defines the parameters of the claim - no evidence of collusive activity with the Russian GOVERNMENT in its ELECTION INTERFERENCE ACTIVITIES

    Very different to the blanket claim "They did not establish any conspiracy or coordination between Trump, Trump associates & Russia"

    Cenk let's him away with this which I wouldn't have done

    The real giveaway with Tracey that it is his biased view which he is trying to convince others of is he prefixes the above with "Let's be clear about this" & goes on to incorrectly quote what are purportedly Mueller's statement as quoted in Barr's summary. This sort of tactic "Let's be clear about this" is very like another phrase so often heard by the Liar-in-chief "Believe me" when he is trying to convince about a lie he just told

    If someone is so inaccurate in their statements as Tracey with such a basic mis-reporting of Mueller's quote, revealing his very strong bias - why would anyone listen to anything else - their bias has been revealed as is yours Max
  3. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    Who remembers 'Let me make one thing perfectly clear....'
  4. Hook

    Hook Blackbeard's former bo'sun.

  5. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    Sometimes you have to use the Pesher Method on Trump's statements, occasionally there is a truth hidden in the lie, it's just that the truth isn't what Trump wants you to think. For example, if he says "This election is rigged, believe me!", he knows that because he's trying to rig it.
  6. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

  7. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    That is the best caricature! Guy's got him utterly!
  8. Ciunas Audio

    Ciunas Audio Trade: Ciunas Audio

    I don't see it being reported that what Trump is doing with his recent firings is not that he is pissed about the border, it's not that he is sowing chaos, as the lazy media are reporting - it's that he is installing himself as a dictator by a tsunami of firings & not replacing them except with acting appointees - people who do not have much going for them, would probably not pass congressional approval & who are likely Trump sycophants.

    In effect the US has a dictator, tyrant. autocrat, whatever you want to call him, in charge
  9. Darmok

    Darmok "A Priori Teleology."

  10. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    It looks like Netanyahu is set to form the next government of Israel (aided by extreme right-wing parties) so here's a reminder of what Trump's done to help him:
    Coming next: annexation of parts of the occupied West Bank - also with Trump's approval.

    The Palestinians look to be screwed. Could there have been a worse POTUS, from their point of view? Or is Jared Kushner's "peace plan" going to fix everything?
  11. Ciunas Audio

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  12. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    Kushner's "peace plan" is "Jordan = Palestine" - 1-state, Israel annexes all occupied territories except Gaza, if Palestinians don't like living under apartheid in The Official Jewish State they can move to Jordan.
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  13. Ciunas Audio

    Ciunas Audio Trade: Ciunas Audio

    All this ramping up of Barr's claims about "spying" on the Trump campaign, etc. is only going to get worse as the final release of the Mueller report approaches - a planned distraction
    Along with Trumps Homeland Security moves & his border tactics - another big distraction
    Barr will release some sort of massaged report in a a week or so but this will fall well short of being transparent - the fighting will start & so it will drag on - meanwhile the strategic distractions will gather momentum & the media will enable all this BS
  14. matthewr

    matthewr spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld

  15. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Pure Trump. Deny and counterpunch. No doubt he’ll be calling for arrests on charges of Treason.
  16. Ciunas Audio

    Ciunas Audio Trade: Ciunas Audio

    Yea, but it's worth pointing out every time it's done & I would prefer if the media ignored these deflections & just reported them as what they are, just another deflection/distraction - instead they run with it - it only reinforces Trumps belief that he can manipulate a compliant media
  17. Bjork67

    Bjork67 pfm Member

    With all the firearms in the USA why doesn't someone do to right thing and shoot the fool.
  18. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Most of the gun owners are on his side - the common thread is gullibility and toxic machismo.
  19. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    I giggled when he said gravel.

  20. Darmok

    Darmok "A Priori Teleology."

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