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Trump Part 18

Discussion in 'off topic' started by kendo, Oct 10, 2019.

  1. maxflinn

    maxflinn pfm Member

    Jonathan, unless the general vibe is everything will be OK once Trump is gone it's Russian propaganda.
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  2. Marky-Mark

    Marky-Mark pfm Member

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  3. Jonathan

    Jonathan pfm Member

    yes - i think trump is the perfect barometer of the state of US democracy and therefore a fitting head of state. It just lets you know that things at all levels below are very much NOT okay.
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  4. Jonathan

    Jonathan pfm Member

    abby martin did a two week stint covering unrest in venezuela - perhaps that's what you're thinking of and just got confused?
  5. Hook

    Hook Blackbeard's former bo'sun.

    Until last year, the site was sponsored by a media outlet for the government of Venezuela. Not clear where Martin gets funding today.
  6. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    what is your point? tariq ali was also part of teleSUR.

    i have never seen you post that a BBC news personality was sponsored by the british government or that an american journalist was sponsored by the corporate powers that also "fund" the government.
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2019
  7. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Perhaps we should address Chris Hedges' points, and not the source of funding for the station. My main disagreement with Hedges is his supposed equivalency of the GOP and the democrats, but I do think he is correct when he says that neither parties' legislative agenda is based on improving the lives of average Americans. America has become an oligarchy, and the likes of Biden is not going to do anything to upset this.
  8. Jonathan

    Jonathan pfm Member

    well it wouldn't be an ad-hominem attack if he hadn't mentioned 'funding' i suppose (which was Hook's supposed M.O.) :p

    from what i can tell both parties' motivations are controlled the same people (can i say 'military industrial complex' here?) - I guess they both go about doing the same job with different affect. But Hedges can speak on my behalf any day of the week.
  9. Hook

    Hook Blackbeard's former bo'sun.

    No point, just a simple statement of fact made in response to a question by Yank and following a reply by Jonathan.
  10. Hook

    Hook Blackbeard's former bo'sun.

    I have no modus operandi, but mea navis aëricumbens anguillis abundant.
  11. maxflinn

    maxflinn pfm Member

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  12. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

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  13. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    another plug for the hill's "rising" show. weekly review is always good fun:

    now, contrast that to the "centrist" PSB newshour, which i used to be a fan of:

    i don't see the point in having shields and brooks, because they are both the same trad republican. in fact, i am starting to hate shields as much as clinton, biden, pelosi and the whole lot of corporatists.
  14. maxflinn

    maxflinn pfm Member

    Surely the man will have to pull out, and guess who that will provide an opportunity to enter...
  15. NeilR

    NeilR pfm Member

    In my opinion he should never have run in the first place (too old). If you know who comes back and wins the nomination, then the dems really will have lost the plot.
  16. Jonathan

    Jonathan pfm Member

    the 'M.O.' i was referring to simply being "if you don't like the message then try to attack the credibility of the messenger" etc
  17. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    It would be funny if Trump is impeached and his gang does jail time over asking the Ukrainians for dirt on such a doltish candidate when a YouTube search would have sufficed.

  18. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    If only Trump's father had done the same.
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  19. Marky-Mark

    Marky-Mark pfm Member

    We need Trump and Brexit and Black Friday and Tech Fetishism and streaming pablum or we'll be left to stare into the abyss of the impending dystopian hellscape of our own making.

    In the end, it will be written that the sum of our human and technological advancements amounted to mass inaction in the face of mass extinction. But those discounts, though!
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  20. Marky-Mark

    Marky-Mark pfm Member

    Shields needs a drool cup and Brooks needs to rub one out on-air to a picture of Reagan and be done with it.
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