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UK public to applaud NHS staff at 8 p.m.

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Thorn, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    I think you're missing the point. The clapping is as much for the benefit of the people doing the clapping as those being clapped. Where I live is staunchly working class, but almost every house had someone clapping.
     
  2. Roger Adams

    Roger Adams pfm Member

    Let's get a vaccine done!
     
  3. Roger Adams

    Roger Adams pfm Member

    I'm referring to typical Tory voters and I do live in a Tory stronghold so I hope you will excuse my only using personal experience.

    Paying a proper wage. Not scaring vital European staff away. Supplying adequate and approved PPE in a timely fashion. That would help those in the NHS a lot more. Force the Government to respond. In Taylor's model of what happens in a pandemic like this, which has proven to be 100% accurate up to now, the next stage is civil unrest and rioting. Applause, I'm afraid, is IMHO "quaint" but both unoriginal and fairly pointless.

    How about all those people take (or send) some home baked treats, water or some food to their local hospital given the difficulties these workers face shopping right now? Everyone feels better when there is real help and appreciation offered IME. I gave the ambulance crew, coming out at 1am the bananas out of my fridge. It isn't hard.

    Last night was better than nothing don't get me wrong. Until more pressing issues are addressed through unstoppable public demand however, I would argue it is of little worth. Think of the person who saw that on the news last night and is now trying to stabilise someone, in the dirty area of A&E, without a WHO apporved face mask to wear. Is that person thinking "oh how wonderful"? This might seem harsh (apologies) but I just see dispassionate reality so sorry for that.
     
  4. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Staying alert

    Roger, I understand your perspective but a highly visible and mass demonstration of support not only gives a much needed morale boost to those on the front line, it also reinforces the strong popular support for the NHS. I know several nurses and docs who were moved to tears by this. Don’t underestimate its value.

    Sometimes that support falters, a little bit, so giving it a jolt now is important, and will make the right wing media think twice about any subtle undermining it might have considered doing, such as the Sun’s infamous castigation of the junior doctors’ strike.
     
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  5. Gaycha

    Gaycha pfm Member


    Blah, blah, blah.


    Tbh. I think the notion is a bit naff, but wholly support doing something positive that helps someone , somewhere, and without there being cheap, crass and obvious political points made about it.

    You should try it before dismissing it. Cost you nothing.
     
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  6. calorgas

    calorgas Ratty bumpkin

    I initially thought the whole thing was a bit pointless, but I was wrong, joined in and found it quite moving.
     
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  7. Roger Adams

    Roger Adams pfm Member

    Class

    FWIW I did - however tiny its worth. WE should not be "moved" by it. The NHS workers should be helped by it. It is almost as if we arranged it to make ourselves feel better.

    I also donated to my local hospital. I've taken donuts to my GP's along with signing 3 petitions. I dismiss last night because too many seemed to feel they were doing what they should for NHS workers when they really should appreciate them and properly fund them.

    You should try it before dismissing it.

    I will leave it there as I have no wish to offend more - I see this in a different light to many here.
     
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  8. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Staying alert

    Seriously? Ordinary people have no say in how well the NHS is funded, nor how much its staff gets paid. How do you propose I, and all the others, 'should' properly fund them? The only way we have a say is at the ballot box or, as last night, in mass public demonstrations of support.
     
  9. Bjork67

    Bjork67 pfm Member

    If world hunger poverty wars were to stop you give me the impression you would still find something to be angry about !! Roger.
     
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  10. hifinutt

    hifinutt hifinutt

    wonderful to see this demonstration of appreciation , a street near us the whole lot were out clapping
     
  11. Roger Adams

    Roger Adams pfm Member

    Tony,

    Can you give me "insufficient privileges" here please?. I'm not reading it now but there will be a temptation. Just because I have a different value of the value does not mean I wish to offend those who disagree.

    Having said that, I think I am entitled to stand up for the NHS workers and request that people fight for them as much as lean out of their window and applaud them following the Italians.
     
  12. guey

    guey pfm Member

    On the subject of helping out NHS staff, the radio station, Purple Radio I do a monthly show on is doing a 60 hour live radio marathon with money going to provide help/food/treats for NHS staff.
    Details are on the link.
    We are in conversation with a few hospitals to find out what they would like sent, and are hoping to raise £3000 over the weekend (already over halfway to that target).
     
  13. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    It's not one or the other, it's possible to do both.
     
  14. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Staying alert

    Indeed. Misunderstood victim or provocateur. It's your choice, Roger, but you can't play both sides against the middle.
     
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  15. Roger Adams

    Roger Adams pfm Member

    There's an awful lot of comments and differences of opinion on the Beeb too - along remarkably similar lines. Many saying what I am saying. Many getting upset about it. That is sad really. The intolerance of the (equally valid) opinion of others in this nation has never been as high in my life time - even during the strikes of the seventies. People like me are not "trolling" - we are looking at issues from a different, but equally valid, viewpoint. We do not refer to Lib Dem voters as "trolls" following elections do we?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52058013#comment_138680567
     
  16. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    I bet mums.net is lively at the moment.
     
  17. Thorn

    Thorn pfm Member

    It seems it will be every Thursday, so don't forget to clap tonight.
     
  18. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    Perhaps some simple rhythm training?
     
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  19. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Judging by the amount of bottles being constantly taken out to the glass skip, most around here will be lucky if they can hit one hand with the other.
     
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  20. Caledon1297

    Caledon1297 pfm Member

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