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Vandalism and the worth of getting Security Cameras or similar

Discussion in 'off topic' started by RichardA, Jul 30, 2019.

  1. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr pfm Member

    The ICO.

    www.ico.org.uk see also the full text in the link I gave earlier.

    If you can get evidence of his claims, so much the better. Spying on neighbours is a police matter. Harassment Act might also be of some help.
     
  2. Jim Audiomisc

    Jim Audiomisc pfm Member

    When considering types of camera/arrangement note that some cheap 'internet connection' models may be hackable so that third parties can use them to see when you go out!
     
  3. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    all IP cameras are hackable if not configured correctly.
     
  4. Jim Audiomisc

    Jim Audiomisc pfm Member

    That's true. However from what I've heard reported, that comes in two flavours. One being that some cameras are sold as if "configured correctly" but are easy to hack. The other being that users may not know what to do and aren't informed about this risk.

    Of course, similar things can be said about 'internet enabled' TVs, etc. The problem being a lack of awareness of this amongst many users, combined with little knowledge of what/how to deal with it "correctly".
     
  5. RichardA

    RichardA pfm Member

    Bit the bullet and booked installation of cameras for 10 days time. Hopefully never need to use footage.
    Cameras trained on front garden but coincidentally will capture roadside too. Signs provided by supplier.
    Despite multiple calls and emails, no joy with organising visit from local police crime prevention. Would have been helpful but realistically police resources are clearly v stretched.
     
  6. I.D.C.

    I.D.C. pfm Member

    Hope you catch him/her/them. Had two tyres side walls stabbed outside mine. 19inch ocha ! Thankfully this has stopped.
     
  7. hifinutt

    hifinutt hifinutt

    I am sure you will find many uses for the camera , we were away on holiday and i noticed from the camera that the rubbish bins had not been put out. quick reminder to son no 1 who lives there to put them out and he did so. marvellous bit of technology that can be linked to your phone wherever you are in the world.
     
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  8. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    OP,

    Does the alarm sound when the glass is smashed?
     
  9. RichardA

    RichardA pfm Member

    I
    interesting question. It didn’t. Local garage weren’t sure why it didn’t.
     
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  10. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    I’m aware of the law surrounding cctv and privacy and I couldn’t help noticing that one of the factors significant to the arrest of a child abductor and murderer here in Scotland was the evidence from home security cameras capturing the perpetrator with the victim walking through a public place beyond the boundary of the homes where the cameras were in use. I’m fairly sure the cops wouldn’t be asking for the footage then coming back to caution them that they had committed an offence.
    I want to place on trained in my bike outside the front door but am aware it would capture neighbours walking past.
     
  11. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    I’ve never had the police coming round to check my thousands of photos taken in public places, a few of which are for sale with an agency.
     
  12. The Chronicals

    The Chronicals Disruptor

    Once is random, twice circumstantial, three times a pattern. You've obviously pissed some one off in your area. The only way it will stop is either through their boredom, or if you confront them, which may end up you getting stabbed. Tough call. Police won't help for this type of crime in London, its hard enough having them attend a full on burlgary.

    What area of London do you live?

    Putting CCTV cameras on your property pointing at your car, while is completely impractical in London as its rare you'll get the same parking spot twice, will also probably just antagonise the offender even more. Pointing at your garden is definitely safer.

    Get your alarm wired into your horn, simple job to do (although keep a boost pack indoors as it can drain the battery quicker than just an alarm siren), you may get chance to wake up next time it happens.

    Think back - has there recently been any confrontation with anyone locally? A lot of the time these scallies are so pathetic and full of anger, it could be as something as simple as beeping your horn at someone over something you would discount as literally nothing.
     
  13. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    I've answered this specific matter before on here. Its about the probative value of the evidence in any prosecution being measured against how it was obtained - and its for a court to decide.
     
  14. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Tony, it’s the selfies. That’s a prima facia breach of the peace right there. I mean I’ve seen stuff but...
     
  15. Bananahead

    Bananahead pfm Member

    This is legal in the UK. Of course you will have a model release for anyone that is identifiable if you are using the images commercially.
     

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