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Which Linux?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by PaulMB, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    There's always one smartarse.
     
  2. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Thanks - I'll look into that. I haven't lost any files/work, so at some point I'll probably do a clean install on a new HD. However my takeaway is that linux is still not at Windows / MacOs levels of easy user updating, which is a bit disappointing considering how long Linux and ubuntu have been around.
     
  3. Darth Vader

    Darth Vader From the Dark Side

    Every machine I have set up has a partition just for timeshift snapshots and its saved me a lot of time. It makes try-and-see very easy.

    FWIW I find Linux Mint update far simpler and quicker than both Windows that craps all over yer disk stealing space and macOS that often goes out to lunch when updating. And bestest of all is that you don't have to upgrade Linux at all or just select those bits that are of use. Mint also has a beginner update mode where only those marked as green (safe) are installed.

    Also don't fergit that Linux is for free - all those very bright peeps doing all the hard work and then some dumb user complains. You can buy maintained versions that are hardened if you want. Personally I think its amazing what we get for free. I think the current list price for Win 10 Pro is around £150 and no macOS ain't free either as you pay for the license on purchase of the hardware,

    Cheers,

    DV
     
  4. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    sean.

    not sure how n=1 with an old laptop is a situation from which to take away sweeping generalizations. my last memories of windows (about 7 years ago) updating was agony of not knowing what mess i was in for after it was done and, at times wondering if it would ever be done.
     
  5. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Yes, but how many people buy a Novatech brand laptop? Dell sell only a very, very few models with Ubuntu installed, but it seems like a token gesture to show they are not in league with the MS monopoly.
     
  6. Jim Audiomisc

    Jim Audiomisc pfm Member

    Well, I almost never bother to 'update' the Linux distros I use, which makes the task pretty trivial. I just wait until a given LTS has been about for some months, then install the current version. I can't compare it with Windows or Mac as I stopped bothering with them over a decade ago. I always found Windows a PITA, but that's me, I guess. :)
     
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  7. Darth Vader

    Darth Vader From the Dark Side

    Hmmm Dell has been supplying Linux on their PCs for 20 years so I guess its supply and demand. I guess the user base are business where they need Linux.

    Cheers,

    DV
     
  8. Darth Vader

    Darth Vader From the Dark Side

    If anything both Win and macOS updates are a super PITA. They both download in the background even if automatic updates are turned off and then nag nag nag you to upgrade and try to trick you into updating. With major updates both go out to lunch and can keep you hanging about when you need to work or in my case take the taxi waiting outside whilst the dam things are doing whatever they need to do sloooowly.

    With Mint I can choose what I want to update if anything such as firefox and leave it at that.

    Cheers,

    DV
     
  9. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    this isn't something I recognise. 4 win10 machines, all update swiftly and when I tell them to. My machine at work only updates at night, my others are at my behest when I want them to, with little intrusive nagging
     
  10. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Same here, with Kubuntu. I use the same version for a few years, maybe update Firefox once, then eventually move on to 2 or 3 versions later. With a /home partition, it seems to keep all my files and settings.
     
  11. mjw

    mjw pfm Member

    I’m not a computer faffer but read these threads in case I need the knowledge later. I can’t remember why or when but I have a bookmark to Elementary OS. Is that just another brand of Linux? It hasn’t been mentioned so far in this thread so is it not worth considering? Superceded? Just crap?
     
  12. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Just Googled it. It is yet another Ubuntu-based Linux distro. Maybe DistroWatch has a review. It is probably no more "elementary" than Ubuntu or Kubuntu, but I have no idea.
     
  13. mjw

    mjw pfm Member

    Blimey, I had no idea there was so much choice (in fact, I just needed to google what ‘distro’ means). I found a review of Elementray. It was rated 3/5 on that occasion.
     
  14. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I thought it was more a case of MS issuing a great OS followed by a crap one, followed by another goodie, and so on. In my computing life I remember:
    Win 98 - great. Maybe 95 was OK too, back in the day.
    Win 2000 - not great
    Win XP - great, lasted nearly 20 years
    Vista - least said, soonest mended
    Win 7 - this one works
    Win 8 - give over
    Win 10 - seems like a winner.

    Not looking very promising for Windows 11 is it?
     
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  15. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    I must be much older, alas, because my favourites were:

    DOS+Staroffice
    Win 3.1
    Win 98
    Win XP

    Then Red Hat, Mandrake/Mandriva, Mepis, Kubuntu. Never, ever, looked back.
     
  16. Caledon1297

    Caledon1297 pfm Member

    Last Windows that I used was 98, and like you, made the switch to Linux, and never looked back. :cool: :)
     
  17. scotty38

    scotty38 pfm Member

    The PC/MS dos 3.x versions were great and even back then they had an ooops, I give you dos 4.0 :)
     
  18. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Shhhh, no, you just started young.
     
  19. chartz

    chartz pfm Member

    What Sir?

    Even before that, Mac OS (1984) with Photoshop 1 and Word and Excel 1. The stuff still works just fine, and I can even print. Oh, I forgot the Apple //e, still works too. Printing works too. I use an old 98 machine to make floppies. Yes Sir. Mental, innit?
     
  20. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Thank you, dear.
     

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