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Zero car emissions by 2050!

Discussion in 'off topic' started by muzzer, Sep 12, 2013.

  1. muzzer

    muzzer Numb Nut

  2. sewo3

    sewo3 pfm Member

    Zero emissions are impossible, electric cars have to be charged via a generating station. Been past Ferrybridge lately.
     
  3. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Scotland is blessed with one of the best renewable energy resources in the world.

    Onshore and offshore wind but the real long term biggie is tidal devices that are set to go big time within a decade. You should read up on the trials currently underway around Orkney Islands. Tidal device yields are predictable ...you only have to read a tidal chart!

    Its been dubbed the Saudi Arabia of renewable energy for good reason.
     
  4. Rodrat

    Rodrat pfm Member

    As is usual in the country, they will do sod all until we start having blackouts. Same thing with all our infrastructure.
     
  5. julifriend

    julifriend pfm Member

    Indeed, the hot air coming out of the First Minister's office in Holyrood could be used to generate power. However Alex Salmond won't live forever.
     
  6. thebiglebowski

    thebiglebowski pfm Member

    And another £14 million in car rental charges when anyone needs to drive more than 50 miles in one day.

    An electric rubbish truck? Don't think so.
     
  7. Rasher

    Rasher Quadrophenia land

    It's still cherry-picking the facts. The infrastructure still has to be manufactured.
    Someone needs to define 'zero emission'. Shifting the burden elsewhere in the chain is not a solution, it's political bullshit.
     
  8. dweezil

    dweezil pfm Member

    Still a way to go before it's too cheap to meter.
    Apparently salt water, steel and electricity combine badly.
     
  9. Rasher

    Rasher Quadrophenia land

    If you fight against it, yes.
    If you use it, no.
     
  10. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Yes, there is some BS in there but if you do the research you'll learn that this part of the world has certain conditions that are the envy of the rest of the world.

    Relatively shallow waters extending a long way out is a big part of this.

    If you see what's happening behind the scenes I think you'd be impressed. There is a new industrial revoltion happening here.
     
  11. Rasher

    Rasher Quadrophenia land

    Yes, the future looks good, but not at the hands of politicians. But can you trust the energy companies either?
     
  12. a.palfreyman

    a.palfreyman pfm Member

    That explains why Salmond wants independence sooner than later. :eek:

    Yes, he could provide several MW of wind-powered electricity all by himself. :D

    Don't you mean "rubbish electric truck". :D


    AP
     
  13. GTM

    GTM Resitance is futile

    2050 is a long way off. I suspect a significant proportion of the contributors of this forum will be dead by then. I know I'll certainly be living out my twilight years at best. :D
     
  14. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Bingo!

    Doubters should have a poke around at the maps in this link. In general just Google "Crown Estates Round 3". Massive areas offshore have been leased out to operators. Offshore turbines with diameters of circa 220 metres are in development (turbines you currently see on the hills are about 70-80m). This thing is snowballing and countries that can derive their own energy will be winners in the big bad world of 2050.

    http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/energy-infrastructure/offshore-wind-energy/our-portfolio/round-3-wind-farms/
     
  15. Daniel Quinn

    Daniel Quinn Banned

    Seems to me , nobody on this forum need worry , we will all be dead :D
     
  16. Colin Barron

    Colin Barron pfm Member

    They had electric rubbish trucks in i think it was Birmingham in the 1970s, where most of the rubbish was recycled.
     
  17. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    Were the rubbish trucks recycled too?
     
  18. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    They are these days. With steel at £150 a tonne you can't afford not to.
     
  19. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    IMHO, tidal energy is the only real way forward. Its there already and is constant, predictable and probably holds the greatest forces of nature we have on tap.
     
  20. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Industry insiders are basically saying proper wave and tidal arrays are just under a decade away. As well as tidal, the Atlantic is a great wave energy resource...partly because waves come in at a fairly constant frequency so resonance tuned devices can be used.

    Some tidal devices are still at the stage of...put them down for a trial for a few months, bring them back to the surface with bits ripped off ...scratching heads time. Google Openhydro as an example. http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/nova-scotia/story/1.1075510

    Big players such as Rolls Royce, ABB are busy buying up these start-ups. It reminds me of 1970/80's PC industry.

    If The UK and Ireland play their cards right, they could hold alot of Euro power in 20-30 years based in energy supply.
     

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