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ZZ Top

Discussion in 'music' started by muzzer, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Keep Music Vile

    BTW, sure I've asked this before, but anyone here have an opinion on early ZZ Top on CD? I bought Rio Grande Mud, but it sounds almost re-recorded to my ears with modern drum and guitar sounds.
  2. muzzer

    muzzer Numb Nut

    Mine sounds ok.
  3. callahan

    callahan pfm Member

    Early stuff is all on vinyl for me. In fact I think I'll put La Grange on now :)
  4. muzzer

    muzzer Numb Nut

    I have ordered Live in Germany 1980 on CD, any idea if it will be released on vinyl?
  5. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Keep Music Vile

    Had a few of their tracks on the Texas Flashbacks compilations and thought they were great, a quick google has established that Arkama have re-released their sole album, 'Flash', and I have now ordered it off E-Bay. Cheers.
  6. dbz

    dbz pfm Member

    You might not know this, but most of the original vinyl mixes of ZZ Tops albums are not available on CD. When the albums were being prepared for CD release, someone decided (with the band's consent and involvement) to "update" their sound with drum machines, modern production, extra guitars etc, following Eliminator's success in the mid 80's.

    I suspect that's what you are hearing. Vinyl is the only way to hear the original mixes.
  7. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    There is an unfutzed with 'Best Of' that is worth seeking out second hand. I have the original ZZ Top on WB and that is superb.

    ZZ Top on CD is a bit of a lottery.

    The original WB CD of "Degüello" is quite good and has the original mix, but I have heard the vinyl which is better.

    The original CD of "El Loco" also has the original mix and sounds good.

    For "Tres Hombres" and "Fandango!", there are remasters out there with the original mix, but they are a little bit loud (Bob Ludwig IIRC). The 4-CD box set and the "Rancho Texicano" comp using the same mastering is available. The up side is that they are the original mixes and the sound is not bad. Might be worth trying RT as a good sample and can be cheap.

    Decent vinyl is better than the available CD versions.
  8. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Keep Music Vile

    Exactly what I though. Off to the E Bay vinyl section to plug the gaps in my collection.
  9. minimido

    minimido pfm Member

    Similar experiences here, the earlier non-remastered versions of the cd's tend to be closer to the sound of the original vinyl. The re-mastered ones are definitely a bit of a lottery, a couple good, but most awful.
  10. ian r

    ian r 401's Nakman

    Eliminator vinyl is not exactly a well balanced production - I like 'She got me under pressure' for the guitar solos in the second half - but apart from a bit of the drum kit one channel has zip happenning on it until some reverb from the guitar and the drumming is phased from one side to t'other

    On cheaper kit the mix sounds OK - on the whole its not an interesting mix but the rock and roll is good enough to sustain interest in spite of. So Im not surprised to hear they futzed it up on cd. Same thing with Ijahman cd's

    ? my esl's may need a service ?
  11. Rasher

    Rasher Quadrophenia land

    Yeah, but ZZ Top in that era was about MTV and fun. Album production was incidental then, and I think the world thought MTV was the future format of music. It was probably mixed for stereo TVs and large TV screens in Burger King seating areas.
  12. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Keep Music Vile

    That's exactly what I'm hearing. Back to vinyl for these.
  13. ian r

    ian r 401's Nakman

    I have heard of mtv and may have seen it once in jeans shop

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